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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know a lot of you make your own rigs. Do you use crimps or knots on the rig body. I've been finding that the odd rig has snapped and always on the crimp even though I only pinch the crimp lightly in the middle. I have heard there are copper crimps are these better to use? I don't tend to use rigs more than a couple of session so I don't think it is an over use problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi squiresoak never had a problem my self use 80 lb down to 50 lb main line for my rig body and use crimps but the long ones and crimp it twice and i use small cir clip pliers with very little pressure are you using pliers as a lad i know used the wire cutter part on the pliers and he was having that problem as it puts a v in the crimp instead of a round in the crimp ,and i think all small crimps are made of copper hope this is useful findus
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

thanks findus. I'm using the proper crimping pliers but from what you say I need to put 2 crimps in the crimp. Perhaps I am nipping too hard just using 1 to grip the rig body

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Use Sakuma adjustable match crimps with 70lb body ..... you dont have to crimp them at all so no risk of weakening your line. they will slide when you want to move them but will stay put with the heavy body when you cast ..... or use coil crimps .... again no actual crimping required so no risk of weakening your rig body.

Even a properly crimped rig has a weak point as it has to tighten onto the line to hold .... no way of avoiding it.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

When i started home made rigs i nearly always crimped too hard lol until i got the pressure correct,not had a snapped rig since and i use the wire cutter part of the pliers,which i filed down abit,and use my rigs till they fall apart or lose from snags,darn and blast lol.they seem to do my needs ok.good luck. Andy1i
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Gordon, i had the same problem, and lost some good rigs because of it. I have gone back to using knots only, and have no problems, I really am becoming a firm believer of the KISS method for all things angling. Cheers...Mick
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Gordon. When you get a bit of free time call and see me and I'll give you a couple yhat I have made up and you can test them. I have used them over and over again without them snapping. I use round nosed plieers to crimp as it does a far neater job allowing you to crimp in two places. Cheers keith big grin big grin

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

hi gordon, i use proper crimping pliers and have never had a problem unlike using normal or long nose pliers they bned the center length of the crimp not across as to weaken the line


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sorry manic,i may sound abit arrogant but ive never heard of the "kiss" method,am i guessing its the same as the "its close enough,it'll do" style method that i have been using for a long time lol.Andy1i
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Andy, the KISS method is a US military abbreviation, and means, Keep It Simple, Stupid. it was a golden rule when planning an ambush etc in Vietnam. they reason that if its too complex theres more can go wrong. Im a firm believer in this, and now make my rigs simple and colourless, as i believe too much can make fish wary in clear water, Strangely enough i was looking over a sea dangler mag the other day and one of the top danglers said the same. I just wish he had agreed with me last year, i might not have blanked so much...lol... Cheers..Mick
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

As usual, have to agree with rabbi2 - I also use those pliers (mine, not his) to do crimps and never had a problem.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Eccles !!! big hug big hug big hug
Cheers keith big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks manic muppet,thats almost "ochams razor" theory,but yeah i like the "kiss" method. Dont over complicate matters. I can embrace that. Andy1i
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks manic muppet,thats almost "ochams razor" theory,but yeah i like the "kiss" method. Dont over complicate matters. I can embrace that. Andy1i
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks manic muppet,thats almost "ochams razor" theory,but yeah i like the "kiss" method. Dont over complicate matters. I can embrace that. Andy1i
 
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