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newbee
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi all im using a 30lb line with a 60lb shock leader because its alot better to pull the weight out of snags all so worryed about losing the set up and weight when i cast as my m8 uses 15lb and every time he cast out the thing snapped, will the size of my line stop me catching big fish?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My opinion is 30lb is too big. I use 15/18lb main line and 60lb shock. Theres no rules on what you should and shouldnt use but I would drop down a bit.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, as you have around 18ft + of shockleader, i really dont see how it matters what your mainline is, the fish are not even going to see it, I used 30lb line on mine till i got 80lb braid, and it does reduce tackle loss. as far as fish are concerned the only part of your rig worth worrying about is the snood and anything attached to it, ie, hooks, and bait. Cheers..Mick
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The only advantage to using lighter line is that you'll get a lot more of it on your spool. happy
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

storm1fishing wrote:
The only advantage to using lighter line is that you'll get a lot more of it on your spool. happy

well since i cant cast more then 60 feet then it wont matter then
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

thanks guys this has made me happy as i was worryed about not getting fish and as you all have said it dont matter wot size it is thanks
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

Using a heavy line does matter. A heavy line will create more resistance aginst the tide thus ausing your line to drag with the tide.

The norm for shore fishing wuld be 15 to 18 lb line. 50 to 60lb shockleader and a 5 to 6oz weight,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, once again the answers have gone off topic, he didnt ask if there were advantages etc, he asked if heavy line would stop him catching big fish. the simple answer is, no, it wouldnt. Cheers..Mick
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

newbee wrote:

well since i cant cast more then 60 feet then it wont matter then


if you were to drop down to 15/18lb line you might notice a little extra distance with your casts but you might not need to. some tpyes of fish need a 150 yard cast so their out of range for you(and me). others need only 10yards and some about 30-40 yards. try to fish venues that suit you, your gear and your casting ability.

i reckon confidence has a lot to do with catching fish. if you go out with a half arsed attitude your gonna be less likely to catch. if you've got confidence in your ability, rods, reels, line and traces your more likey to be hauling in the fish. also keep your snoods light. if targeting flats i go to 10lb, if its Bass i use 25lb. it seems to me that your happier with your 30/60lb lines over lighter ones so stick with them on your main spool. most reels have a spare one so try the lighter ones on that. if it feels right fine, if not stick with what you like.
it could be a bad knot or just a bad spool of line thats making your friend crack off.


just my tuppence worth
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Newbee, well i tried to get your point across, I read your post and the way i read it was, that you use 30lb line to cut tackle loss, and used your mate as an example. This just left the one question you asked, Would 30lb line stop you catching big fish, and for some unknown reason no one except myself has actually given you an answer. In fact for reasons known only to themselves, they have gone onto the subject of mainline, its Advantages/disadvatages. So once again in answer to your actual question, "WILL 30LB LINE STOP ME CATCHING BIG FISH" the answer is, NO, it wont, Cheers..Mick
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

i thought i did manic????? maybe i just didnt do it well and should have put the word "no" in there big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
just tryin to offer a little advice to a newbie as i was one myself 18 months ago big grin, i still am in many ways
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi RM, its not your fault, but ive noticed a lot lately how the original post question is lost, and replies go onto a different subject altogether. It happened to me with the 1st reply i got, after that all replies were on the subject of the 1st reply, and my question wasnt answered. I think sometimes a post is read too quickly, or misunderstood, then the topic changes. newbee is happy with his 30lb line as it cuts tackle loss, (compared to his mate with 15lb line) he was just worried it might stop him catching big fish, but as his terminal tackle is on 60lb B/S and his shockleader is 60lb B/S the fish dont even see his 30lb line because its about 18ft or more further up the line. Cheers...Mick
PS, this might make a good sticky, a post on the advantages/disadvantages of different B/S of mainline, which line to use, and under which conditions, ie, boat, pier, beach, or rock fishing etc. What do you think.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

manic_muppet wrote:

PS, this might make a good sticky, a post on the advantages/disadvantages of different B/S of mainline, which line to use, and under which conditions, ie, boat, pier, beach, or rock fishing etc. What do you think.


isnt that off topic?? big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin


only joking. good idea. when i started out macky bashing i was using 25lb off a pier but into clean ground when 10lb might have been enough.

from my own experiences i think the biggest mistakes from newbies are the BS line they use and also the size of the hooks being used. i used to use size 2/0's for everything, now its mainly size 2's.(off topic again a little)
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

i agree manic,doesnt matter about the mainline too much,i dropped down to 25lb (0.40mm) only as my casting abilities improved over time.but as someone once told me "its all about putting the right bait in the right place",and for me catching a fish is a bonus to my fishing.

newbee if your happy with your mainline stick with it,your friend could be cracking off because their shock knot could be all wrong or there is a problem with their end rod tip eye ie: cracked or damaged.

thats my tuppence worth big hug

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

couldn't resist..........................wish my line was too big big grin big grin big grin big grin
 
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