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storm1fishing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If someone needs to ask a question like that , I'm sure all the answers given will stand him in good stead in the future when he is able to cast more than 50 yards , but is wondering why he's not.
I'm sure that if everyone just gave a yes or no answer to all questions , getting any information would be like pulling teeth.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That would be a good point, if anyone had bothered to answer his question, but giving answers to a question he didnt ask isnt much use to him.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

newbee wrote:
thanks guys this has made me happy as i was worryed about not getting fish and as you all have said it dont matter wot size it is thanks


seems to have got his answer to me winking
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, your right he did, and if you read it again you will find i was the only one to actually answer his question, the rest are about mainline advantage/disadvantage which had nothing to do with his post.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

NO IT WONT STOP YOU CATCHING FISH! line does not catch fish its the hook that catches the fish..... there question answered ........you guys really want to lighten up a bit and get of your high horses once in a while......when i first started sea fishing i was told on this site that using a lighter line will make casting distances improve (not catch fish) but at the end of the day it is personal choice.
This place is getting like WSF where no one can make a glib comment or have a bit of fun without others having a dig.
Just my tuppence worth

p.s if people didnt go of topic now and again the forums would make pretty grim reading if all answers were just YES/NO answers
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi FH, you just proved my point again, this isnt about high horses, its about people not reading the posts properly. if you were to ask a question and got answers only to questions you had not asked, what use would it be to you. I agree that a little more info is useful, but only if they answer the question that has been asked, so if you would like to lighten up and read it properly you can save yourself the trouble of comparing this site with others, and being clever about it. fullstop
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

so by the second reply to his question he had his answer , should everyone then stop giving their opinions on the matter. confused

Most questions that are are asked do not have a simple yes / no answer as everyone has their own experiences and a forum is exactly that , a forum , where these things get discussed and different idea's get tossed around , or so I thought. confused
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i get what you are saying and you have provided me with answers to my questions before which i appreciate, but the question was answered before the post went of topic so i dont see the point of getting the hump about of topic replies
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No it wont.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

manic_muppet wrote:
Hi FH, you just proved my point again, this isnt about high horses, its about people not reading the posts properly. if you were to ask a question and got answers only to questions you had not asked, what use would it be to you. I agree that a little more info is useful, but only if they answer the question that has been asked, so if you would like to lighten up and read it properly you can save yourself the trouble of comparing this site with others, and being clever about it. fullstop

Come on MM, the replies you have criticised have all been relevant to the initial inquiry by a chap who describes himself as a new sea angler. No! is not a definitive reply.
If using a heavy main line reduces an anglers casting distance whereby he cannot cast to the feeding zone, YES the heavy line has prevented him catching fish.
If the heavy line reduces the ability to grip the sea bottom in tide flow, YES it has prevented him fishing productivly.
All points that previous posters have tried to put across. The accepted norm of 15/18lb mainline and a leader for fishing over normal ground has become so for a very good reason. Everything taken into consideration, it's the best compromise, proved over time.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry tomcat, but your another one that hasnt read his post properly, i suggest you go back and find where he asks about casting further, or which mainline to use. he doesnt, hes happy with what he has, he only wanted to know if it would stop him catching big fish, my point is, no one answered him, they just changed his topic. Now as i have just heard my youngest daughters partner might be dead, im saying no more on this or any other subject.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

No MM, far from it. You've not read my reply.
My reply quoted, and was directed therefore to you!
Read the points about casting and bottom holding limitations and YES they are relevant to the effect on using heavy line to fish.
Therefore YES using heavy line can prevent the catching of fish.
This was I beleive the question asked initially.
"Will the heavy line prevent me catching fish?"
Answer. In certain circumstances, under certain conditions the reply is YES.
Sorry for being pedantic and picky, you started and steered the criticism in the thread though.
What earlier posters had tried to point out, was the limitations and therefore the effect on fishing productivity that using too heavy a mainline inflicts. Their advice was relevant to the subject and I feel should not have levvied the criticism you posted.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ok guys lets put things i perspective,

First of all 30lb mainline will cut down your cast and will also tend to let your weight drag in a tidal flow, but it will not stop you catching fish.

If you are pier fishing or rock fishing and you need to lift or bully the fish up a pier or out of rocks or heavy kelp and distance casting is not important then it is perfectly ok to use such a setup as you have at the moment.

If yu are going to fish on clean ground the the norm would be 15 to 18lb mainline with a 50 to 60lb shockleader.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
Cheers
keith big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

rabbi2 wrote:
Ok guys lets put things i perspective,

First of all 30lb mainline will cut down your cast and will also tend to let your weight drag in a tidal flow, but it will not stop you catching fish.

If you are pier fishing or rock fishing and you need to lift or bully the fish up a pier or out of rocks or heavy kelp and distance casting is not important then it is perfectly ok to use such a setup as you have at the moment.

If yu are going to fish on clean ground the the norm would be 15 to 18lb mainline with a 50 to 60lb shockleader.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
Cheers
keith big grin big grin


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Keith

I agree with everything that you are saying , as I think that everyone else would too.
The only mis-understanding is how this is going off topic by simply not answering yes or no to the original question confused
All the replies to the question were giving different reasons as to why one should / should not use a heavy line and how anyone thinks that that is OFF TOPIC is the only mis-understanding I think. big grin

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