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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ive been reading about what bait for what species etc and it seems that when ever macki,bluey or herrin is used as a bait on it,s own for rays etc it,s always in the form of a fillet .i ask this as we all know that sent is very important in sea fishing and when you cut of a fillet to use .to me it seems you though the main sent part of the bait fish away ie the blood and guts .so is there any reel reason why you cant just cut a chunk off the fish with all this in and use it
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

One possibility is that a fillet if cut properly and presented properly looks like a small fish, for tope and conger the usual method is to present the whole mackerel as a flapper this way you are doing both ie looks like a fish and leaves a scent trail.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ok. Just had to check the complete book of Sea fishing by Collins, as I have not used Mackerel as bait. Cut off a fillet and then cut across the fillet at a 30 degree angle a strip about an inch wide, this is used for the smaller fish, Plaice etc, Leonard
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i never use macky or herring in the summer as i think the smell only brings all the crabs to me i dont like any one using it any were near me i have fished the beach with no crabs then some one puts macky on and ive been crabbed spme thing rotten its ok in the boats but not of a beach but thats only my feelings
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The method you described Lenard is the method most commonly used as you say for smaller species, the reason it is curt at an angle is to make it appear as a small fish when presented on the hook.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, Keith, your right a picture on page 120 of the book in last post, shows a Plaice of about 4 lbs, Leonard.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cheers for the replies guys but still think i might try out a chunk or two ,you never know it might get my first non blank in a while
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

nothing wrong with a Mackeral fillet ...........great bait for sizable Bass
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi loli i know theres nout wrong with them or they wouldent be used so oftern i was just wondering why it seems most time it fillets and not chumks with all the bits in .im still fairly new at a lot of the sea fishing game and plan on getting out to more placesand try some different things
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ok I photocopied the page into my webpage

http://www.myspace.com/leonardsgonefishing
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

For bass fishing i use either the head or chunks, as its filled with blood and guts. For rays i use fillets and wrap a squid around it. Main reason for this is that mackeral chunk wouldnt get the distance required for those pesky rays winking
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Chunks of fish are sometimes used for spurdog and tope and a bait with the bones still in is more crab resistant.
The main problem with fish chunks is that they can spin like propellers in the tide or when cast any distance.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If you use them close in for the bass theres no problem. Maybe put the chunks in a D'vice and they could be ok to cast then winking
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

wen im on about macky i can only talk about the holderness coast you cam maybe get away with it in your area but here i find it only catches crabs but if you find it works for you then fine after all bait only works if your confident in it
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi roy it due to me being fairly new to sea fishing and not really have fished that many places i ask but with the answers like yours re the crabs and from oyhers i can now see why its not used wide spreed by others that new these thing .thats why this site is so good .the help and advice you get from fellow members .ive lernt a lot from you guys
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