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sparkyman
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi All,

Would welcome your Fixed spool experience as I need to replace some Chinese junk that's rapidly losing the will to keep up with the sunny day, 5kt, no swell/no current type of conditions that call for 2Oz at 50yds to hook up with the local flatties.

I've bought cheap in May & now regret it - now I want to "Invest" in a quality fixed spool that will be a silky smooth pleasure to use, reliable & dependable, with known spares back up from a UK service centre (if poss ?)

It will be used for light beach work with a Bass rod - i'll keep the heavyweight distance work for the multipliers & bigger sticks - don't need a huge surf reel that will take 300yds of 30lb line, 250yds of 12 or 15lb will be more than enough - would I be correct in thinking 5000 size (not quite in touch with the FS sizing notation ?)

I'm also thinking I'll probably be looking at Daiwa or Shimano.....but are there any other "premium" brands of FS that I should be considering ?

If you could comment on Make/Model so I can do some more research

As always, Appreciate your experiences & valued opinions
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

You might have to hunt around a bit but I have been using a couple of Daiwa BF5500's for the last two or three years - very dependable and not too pricey. Alternatively, go for one of the Daiwa Opus series. Shimano are good too but more expensive.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

eccles wrote:
You might have to hunt around a bit but I have been using a couple of Daiwa BF5500's for the last two or three years - very dependable and not too pricey. Alternatively, go for one of the Daiwa Opus series. Shimano are good too but more expensive.
As Eccles says the Opus is worth a look,comes in several sizes,I have two of the 5500 size and they have been very reliable over the last three years.
Shimano very good if you are willing to pay a bit more.
Good luck with your choice whatever you settle on,tight lines,Mick big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

I bought a Daiwa BF5500 on advice given on this forum (thanks Keith and Eccles) and have never regretted it. It does everything that I want it to do and is a pleasure to use.

Cheers, Geoff big grin big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

i got an abu soron 70 a while back for my lighter fishing its i cant speak highly enough of it. i pair it to either a bass rod or a foo fighter and its perfect. ive one reel loaded with braid and the other one with 10lb mono and 30lb leaders. ive had a double dogs on it and it handled it no probs, not exactly a doggie reel so i wouldnt be targeting them with it but it will get them in if needed.
its not the cheapest but the drag is silky smooth and the size is perfect for a bass rod and light fishing.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

...any comments on the Shimano Aerlex XS and the Penn Surfmaster & Captiva models .....?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

if your thinking about getting a surfmaster then put your money in the toilet and flush, same end result big grin
do a search on them, the 750/850 are getting bad reviews from everyone who doesnt write for a magazine.
the older 60/70 models are a crackin reel tho if you can get one 2nd hand. the 60 would be nice on a bass rod. the paint on the handle flakes off badly but the reels themselves are very very good.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Redmouse......yes, 24hrs on, a few hours of browsing and I've found a lot about the surfmasters, and the Captiva's with problems out of the box, or rapidly wearing parts......exactly what I'm trying to get away from. No doubt these are all of far eastern source yet again.

I've also noticed that some of the lower cost Shimanos are made in Malaysia which surprised me, as I thought they were all Japanese ? Would this be the same for Daiwa - do they have Maylasian/Chinese sourced models as well ?

Problem I'm now finding is that seems to be no middle ground for reels ? It''s either cheap and throw away or 300 + for a Japanese item, which is way out of my budget. I was hoping to find a true "decent" reel for around the 100 mark.......but I can't seem to pin anything down.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I still say you won't go far wrong with Daiwa in my experience. I have just had a look at several reviews of the Emcast Evos and all the guys praise them so it's not just me. Don't know if they are chinese made but don't discount them, they are making some good stuff these days as they have learned a lot in recent years. If they get the hang of making cars in the next year or so, it could be quite painful for some european manufacturers.....
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Shimano Aerlex can be had for 60-70 I think, a reel which receives many good reports (v good line lay). The cheaper Daiwas are even less and are pretty sound, though I'm not keen on the line lay myself.

The Navis and Biomasters may fit the bill. I don't think 300 is necessary.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

...no, I couldn't justify 300+ on a reel either.

I've found a Shimano Power Aero Titanos GT6000 - Graphite type build so should be OK with saltwater, nice solid feeling reel apart from a lot of slop in the handle/gearing ? Holding the rotor locked, you can rock the handle back an forth a fair bit and axially ? The handle shaft is square, sliding through the square hollow of the main gear - there is a bit of play here but not the amount I feel with the handle in place. Looking closer, the main bearings seem to be a sloppy fit in the casing halves - I can see the outer races moving about.

Again, I guess you get what you pay for (50 in this case) - reel is NOS, I think maybe discontinued in early 2009. Maybe this is a common problem with graphite (plastic) casings due to the moulding process ?

I'm thinking about stripping it down and checking the main bearing fit closely. I'm wondering if a) this is a common problem? b) is there a quick fix (maybe PTFE tape on the outer race to bulk the bearing out a bit & make the bearing a press fit in the case halves ?

Any advice or comments ?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

..stripped the new reel down today and the main bearings just fell out - they're a rattling fit in the casing halves.......the resulting rock on the handle when winding is very noticeable and a bit concerning as I suspect the bearings will start to oval & widen the seats in the plastic case halves, not to mention what the rocking main gear & pinion may suffer from all this unwanted movement.

Also noticed a lot of side play in the main gear which explains the excess fore/aft handle movement with a locked rotor - main gear is not correctly meshed with pinion - needs a shim or two I think.

Re-built with grease on the outer races - a slight improvement but not good enough in my view. May try PTFE tape next - don't want to use Bearing Fit as a) I think it's non-compatible with a lot of plastics and b) I'd have problems drifting them out if they ever need replacing.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well there ya go, I always advise folk not to buy S/H reels without having a good look at them - you just don't know how the previous owner treated them and there are some right dinlos out there.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

reel_wizard wrote:

It wasn't second hand Eccles .... NOS = New Old Stock

OK so I did not understand that expression, now that I do I am well, just flabberghasted that the reel should apparently be in such poor condition.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I use multipliers myself but have been using my Emcast Evo's to lend to mates who are new to beach fishing. These were originally bought for carping (spodding) but haven't given me any problems since using 'em on the beach. You should really wash 'em in fresh water after a session (as they're not designed for beach reels) but I haven't been and they still work fine.

For the same price you can get the Emcast Evo Sport (the red one) which is more designed for saltwater fishing.

Cheers,

Dave
 
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