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G0KOK




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ok here we go, new here to the forum, after about twenty years of not fishing on a regular basis, and now retired, like all else I find technology in sea fishing tackle has move on, I have a new a new ABU 6500 C3 CT mag multiplier and 13 foot carbon beachcaster, I gave it a go off the beach at Hythe Folkestone, impressed, although even with all the controls engaged I still have to keep the thumb at the ready for spool overrun. ( 3 dabs 1 very nice plaice) (king rag).

Ok thats a brief history, now here's the question, for a surf set-up I have settled on a Penn Infinity fixed spool, I liked the look of the Shimano aero but could not justify the cost, however , the rod choice is taxing the brain a bit, I have trawled the net and forums looking for advise and experiences, so, the shortlist I have for a surfcaster is, a Daiwa 16 foot Grandwave or a Daiwa 16 foot Theory, I would like to hear from anyone who has used either or has a friend who owns one or other in order to make my choice, that said, I am not so stuck in a mindset that I would not listen to any other advise on 14/16 foot surfcasters.

Thank you.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

Welcome to the forums. Must admit my experience comes from multipliers and the respective rods. Im sure someone will come along and help you out with your dilemma winking
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

OK from my recent experience with my own and other folks' rods:
1. Don't get anything too long, they can be jolly awkward to use especially if you find yourself at a venue which is a bit restricted.
2. Full carbon is near enough essential in my view. When I retired a little while ago, I tried some of the composite rods because they were cheaper but soon discovered that they just don't have the action or stability that you get with full carbon.
3. Think about transport - although two piece rods arguably have a better action, three piece rods are an awful lot easier to get in the back of the car or carry on a bike.
4. Don't imagine that it is necessary to spend a small fortune as many do; for the average bloke there just isn't any point in spending 250 - 400 unless you are a "tackle tart" because it won't make much difference to your fishing experience. It is also well worth shopping around because there can be sizeable differences between different retailers for the same rod. I recently bought an Abu Rod for a mate and got around 30 off for him.
4. When it comes to Daiwa, their best beach rod is almost certainly the Supercast although they are a bit pricey.

These days I too use FS reels, mainly because I do a fair amount of night fishing and just can't be bothered with all that faffing around with multi's. I can still cast over 100 yds when I want to using a modified OTG cast.
Just in case you are interested, my main beach rods are 14ft Abu Hellbenders and I would not use anything longer. I also have a 12 ft bass rod, a couple of other 13 ft rods and an uptider which I use for lure fishing.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Diawa Supercast MK1 (Paul Kerry) was the best rod I have ever used, the Mk11 although a good rod in my opinion doesn't come anywhere near the MK1.
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keith big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If you,re looking for a long FS surf rod thats easy cast but good backbone and bite detection look at the Italian Alcedo range of rods.
They,ll blow the Daiwa long rods away.
Ultra high quality carbon but ridiculously low weight.
If I was ever to go back to FS reels I would have these on my to buy list alongside the Penn Affinity Twin Tips.
You,ll find them at Gerrysfishing at Morcombe.
Ask for Chris as these are a speciality of his.
 
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eccles
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hmm, far too pricey for my liking, but then I am already fixed up.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

If you already have a 13ft beachcaster, why do you want a new one? Incidentally, no reason why you can't fish a fixed-spool on a multiplier rung rod, though coasters may make it awkward.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ah well, I expect his existing rod is rung for a multi and now he wants one rung for FS reel. That's how I read it anyway.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

A really good cheap alternative would be the Mitchell Challenge Pro Surf 363.
The recommended casting weight is 50 to 150 grams.
the downside or upside depending on your point of view is that it is a 3 piece rod.
The bite indication is superb and whilsts it ideal for the small stuff, it will easily cope with large cod.
Cheers
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