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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, just joined.

Ive recently taken up sea fishing with the limit experience Of fishing off harbour walls a piers when i was a kid. Im looking for a light weight beach rod for bass and flatly fishing. Im on a budget of around 100 for a rod and real.

Any help would be gladly received

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Although not the best, the Shakespeare Salt Bass & Flattie which is 11' 6" should be available or around 70. If you go much cheaper than this you will not get a full carbon rod which is a must in my view. As far as reels are concerned you should start with a fixed spool job with at least 3 ball bearings and a capacity of at least 200 m of 0.4mm line. There are quite a few about but choose one with a wide spool and a deep skirt to the spool (so that your line doesn't get trapped underneath).
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks eccles,
Ive had a look at the shakespear salt extreme bass for 54 and ive also seen the daiwa D series bass for 35. Is there much to choose from these rods apart from the price?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think you will find that the Daiwa is a "composite" rod whereas the Shakespeare is pure carbon. Carbon rods always cast better than composite in my experience and they do not flap about in the wind which can be important for bite detection and the like. I know what I would do.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

For what it's worth, I always find a floppy rod such as the Mitchell Challenger Pro surf 363 fibre glass rod ideal for flatties ans bass 3.6mtrs 50 to 150grms.
Great bite indication for the flatties and great for taking the pressure of a bass initial run due to the give in it. Cost abut 30 to 40 NOT THE TELESCOPIC!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

why is a fully carbon rod essential? plenty of rods with glass in them that cast well and dont flap in the wind- they're more responsive in my view- fully carbon rods can be lifeless which isnt really what you want when bassing.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I guess you don't ever fish in a force 6 on the south coast then or try to cast 120+ yds.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think im going to go for the shakespear xt bass and the dawia opus 5500 combination, which i can get for 95. Whats the general opion on this set up. I do most of my fishing on the south coast, with a holiday trip to the cornish coast once a year.

Thanks for the advice so far

Phil
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Near perfect for the money mate in my opinion.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

eccles wrote:
I guess you don't ever fish in a force 6 on the south coast then or try to cast 120+ yds.


No need to get personal but as it happens I've fished plenty of times in strong winds on Kent and Essex/Suffolk coasts not that it has anything to do with it- unless your south coast winds are something special but i'm guessing not.

I still dont understand your view that a "fully carbon" rod is necessary other than because you say it is - rods dont cast better per se- that's in the hands of the person using the rod. Saying that I think Reel Wizard explains it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, on the south coast we get real man's winds, not the namby-pamby zephyrs like you get on the east coast.

Not sure what all this fuss about carbon is about. The man says he wants a beech rod, though personally I would have thought hickory or ash far better materials. I use a tapered broom handle myself, which gets me 200 yards out comfortably, especially with the help of a boat.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe thats what i need to do get a boat instead. winking
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think what i need to do is pop to a decent Tackle shop and see what feels right. Only problem is that there isnt many around in swindon being land locked. Can anyone recomend a good shop within an hour and halfs drive from swindon?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

reel_wizard wrote:


Never seen anybody cast a broom handle but Mr Mackellow used to do 175 yards over grass with an adapted fishing umbrella apparently big grin


I think the problem is most broom-handle casters neglect to remove the brush, a kind of reducer/armpit support. One should not, however, discard the brush. In match angling it has proved useful in winning the sweep.
 
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